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Transcript: KLAX to KSNA with full approach



N132KT: Los Angeles Delivery, Piper 132KT, IFR to John Wayne.

LAX_DEL: Piper 2KT, Delivery, good morning, cleared to the John Wayne airport, Seal Beach Five departure, direct, maintain 4000, departure frequency 124.50, squawk 1001.

N132KT: Piper 2KT cleared to John Wayne, Seal Beach Five, direct, maintain 4000, departure 124.50, squawk 1001.

LAX_DEL: Piper 2KT, readback correct, Information Hotel is current, contact ground for the taxi, g'day

N132KT: so long, 2KT


N132KT: Ground, Piper 132KT, GA parking, taxi with Hotel

LAX_GND: Piper 2KT, Los Angeles Ground, taxi to rwy 25R via Alpha

N132KT: taxi 25R, 2KT


Reaching the runway, we contact the tower

N132KT: Los Angeles Tower, Piper 132KT, ready at 25R, IFR

LAX_TWR: Piper 2KT, tower, winds 240 at 13, rwy 25R cleared for takeoff

N132KT: cleared for takeoff, 2KT.

LAX_TWR: Piper 2KT, contact departure, good flight.

N132KT: so long, 2KT


N132KT: Socal Departure, Piper 132KT 400 climbing 4000

LAX_DEP: Piper 2KT, Socal Departure, radar contact


In lieu of any other climb instructions, we must follow the published restrictions on the SID, which says to cross SMO R-154 at or below 3000, then turn left hdg 200 for further vectors.

LAX_DEP: Piper 2KT, turn left direct SLI, contact Socal Approach on 121.30

N132KT: left to SLI, and 121.30, 2KT


As we're fairly close to our arrival airport, it's prudent to advise the controller that we have the weather, so he doesn't have to give it to us. Also, we'd like to request the full approach, but since we just showed up on frequency, we don't know how busy he is, so we'll just tell him we have a request and he can let us know when it's appropriate to give him more information.

N132KT: Socal, Piper 132KT, 4000 with Bravo, and a request

SNA_APP: Piper 2KT, Socal Approach, go ahead

N132KT: 2KT requesting ILS 19R, full approach from SLI for training

SNA_APP: Piper 2KT, how will this approach terminate?

N132KT: in flames, most likely, but we're shooting for a full stop, 2KT

SNA_APP: Piper 2KT, cross SLI at 4000, cleared ILS rwy 19R approach, report SAGER inbound.

N132KT: 2KT, SLI at 4000, cleared ILS 19R, will call SAGER inbound


We fly the full approach, SLI, SAGER, execute the parallel hold entry (1 minute outbound along the localizer, then a continuous left turn to rejoin the localizer inbound) and then report SAGER inbound. For detailed information on these steps, see the reference materials below.

N132KT: 2KT, SAGER inbound.

SNA_APP: Piper 2KT, maintain present speed or grater to the marker, then contact tower on 126.80.

N132KT: wilco, and 26.80 at the marker, 2KT


Keeping our speed up to the extent possible, we reach the marker and call the tower...

N132KT: John Wayne tower, Piper 132KT, outer marker inbound ILS 19R

SNA_TWR: Piper 2KT, John Wayne tower, winds calm, rwy 19R cleared to land

N132KT: cleared to land 19R, 2KT


After landing and rolling out...

SNA_TWR: Piper 2KT, exit left, cross 19L then contact ground 120.80

N132KT: cross 19L, then contact ground, 2KT


N132KT: Ground, Piper 2KT, clear 19L, taxi to transient parking

SNA_GND: Piper 2KT, John Wayne Ground, taxi to parking

N132KT: to parking, 2KT


Related Materials
KLAX Facility Chart
KSNA Facility Chart
KSNA ILS 19R approach chart
John Wayne ILS rwy 19R approach chart
Flying full approaches: The John Wayne ILS RWY 19R
Provides an overview how to fly full approaches, using the KSNA ILS RWY19R as an example. Covers the procedure from the SLI and POM feeder routes.